{"id":676,"date":"2025-10-08T12:10:07","date_gmt":"2025-10-08T12:10:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/for-whom-and-what\/"},"modified":"2025-10-31T14:29:33","modified_gmt":"2025-10-31T14:29:33","slug":"for-whom-and-what","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/en\/for-whom-and-what\/","title":{"rendered":"For whom and what"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"676\" class=\"elementor elementor-676 elementor-32\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d04bcc0 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"d04bcc0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b1979b e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b1979b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-046bfbf elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"046bfbf\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Learning Stage is for organizations that want to make a difference in society<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6e14740 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6e14740\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-94e9b24 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"94e9b24\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-size-sm\" role=\"button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">GOVERNMENTS<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-11602a2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"11602a2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-size-sm\" role=\"button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">COMPANIES<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8797d7c elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"8797d7c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-size-sm\" role=\"button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">KNOWLEDGE INSTITUTES<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-87bd35e elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"87bd35e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-size-sm\" role=\"button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">NETWORK ORGANISATIONS<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-92d8df3 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"92d8df3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dd053fd elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"dd053fd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Do you:<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ee1768c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"ee1768c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a5f78ea e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a5f78ea\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-09938a7 elementor-icon-list--layout-traditional elementor-list-item-link-full_width elementor-widget elementor-widget-icon-list\" data-id=\"09938a7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" 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Because real change comes from within.  \nThat&#8217;s why we like to work for organizations that don&#8217;t just want to drive change from the top down, but want to grow from within \u2014 by investing in a strong learning culture, more ownership, and connecting strategy with values \u200b\u200band stories.\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-74d2ca9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"74d2ca9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6f15915 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"6f15915\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Your question<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1902b28 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1902b28\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Change. It is the only constant in life, and a challenge <br>Organizations have to deal with it in many ways. <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-97e32c7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"97e32c7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c7b6efe e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c7b6efe\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-63fae91 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"63fae91\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e04df5f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e04df5f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u201cWe want to keep up with the changes that these times demand from our organization. But our people are too busy, waiting or reserved. We lack ownership, reflection, learning behavior and\/or the incentive to learn. This is necessary to really move forward as an organization.\u201d <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e761247 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e761247\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d63b377 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d63b377\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tLack of ownership and leadership \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8c5acf1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"8c5acf1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-10c3632 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"10c3632\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;We struggle with bringing our ambitions to life. We want more ownership, agility and involvement, but lack a learning culture in which this can arise.&#8221; \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c4e856b e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c4e856b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ca22223 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ca22223\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tIneffective continuous learning\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4df97b1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4df97b1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-59dcdc1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"59dcdc1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-921b7a8 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"921b7a8\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f42880a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f42880a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;Do our people actually recognize the values \u200b\u200bthat we want to strive for as an organization? How do we find those values \u200b\u200band put them into practice together?&#8221;\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d888277 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d888277\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f031d3b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f031d3b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDecoupling of core values \u200b\u200band sustainability\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-59cc32c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"59cc32c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fc793bb elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fc793bb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u201cThe world around us is changing rapidly. How can we respond to this quickly and effectively?\u201d \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-39d84d3 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"39d84d3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-04fae18 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"04fae18\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tLimited organizational agility\/resilience\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2cb6e3c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2cb6e3c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-38de458 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" 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People are the building blocks: their interactions, goals and values \u200b\u200bcreate the structure, culture and functioning. Conversely, culture influences the way people think, act and interact with each other, in a continuous process of change.  <\/p><p>Our <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/aanpak\/\">people-oriented approach<\/a><\/strong> provides the skills and insights for:<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-493bf01 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"493bf01\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>To achieve this, we work with the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/aanpak\/#learning\">Learning Stage model. <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-acbe205 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"acbe205\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fc0d8bd e-con-full 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All these topics affect people. Then it is extremely important to pay attention to the undercurrent: what is worrying people, what hurts? In terms of content and process, the risk dialogue guide provides a lot of guidance, but we felt that something was missing. That you connect on aspects other than what you technically need in such a spatial planning process. The human side is crucial for a fruitful outcome of the risk dialogues. The narrative and people-oriented approach of Learning Stage and GovernEUR offers concrete and useful tools.\u201d\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-647 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-647 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Nico-Anten.jpg\");}.e-loop-item-647 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-647 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Nico-Anten.jpg\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-647 post-647 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Nico Anten<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSecretary-General International Affairs\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tConnekt\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;Our conversations and your presentations on Shakespeare have also led to the insight that a lot has apparently been thought and written to be discovered and rediscovered, simply because we have experienced it before. History cannot repeat itself, but we can recognize analogies and then be sensible. If we do not want to relive the fourteenth century, we must set high standards for the quality of the decisions we make. It helps to reconsider our value system and take responsibility for it together. . We need independent thinkers, and we need cooperation, because we cannot leave it to politics. I agree that Shakespeare can help, and I think many other writers, philosophers, and musicians can help too, because they capture our emotions. Let&#8217;s use them to find new routes. I keep asking myself the question: how can we develop Lean &amp; Green, and what can we learn from everything that has been written before?\u201d\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-642 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-642 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Frans-van-den-Boomen.jpg\");}.e-loop-item-642 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-642 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Frans-van-den-Boomen.jpg\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-642 post-642 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Frans van den Boomen<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOwner and Strategic Programme Activator\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tOPEN Value Chain\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;Use Shakespeare in a value chain presentation to a group of logistics managers and you&#8217;ll immediately get their attention, because that&#8217;s just not what they expect. Then show them that Shakespeare worked with recognizable patterns, and they&#8217;ll be wide awake. The reflection exercise helps them to think of more sustainable ways to grow their business. You&#8217;ve shown us that there&#8217;s nothing new under the sun, just that we often forget it. Didn&#8217;t Shakespeare write, &#8216;All the world&#8217;s a stage&#8217;? That&#8217;s a clich\u00e9, but it&#8217;s true. If you see this, you can lift yourself up and take on a broader perspective so you can make long-term decisions, preferably together. That&#8217;s what happens in Lean &amp; Green And Shakespeare helps explore our transition arena.\u201d\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-635 post-635 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Sonja Karstens<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSenior Advisor Knowledge and Innovation Management\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRijkswaterstaat\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;RWS employees are practical doers. We usually do not reflect so easily, but given the hectic pace, we quickly move on to the next project that has already started. Every now and then you also have to take a moment to reflect. The narrative method gives us insight into more perspectives and the coherence between them. This makes us aware of common threads and how they influence the complex set of relationships at the individual, organizational and network level. The narrative method invites us to consciously pause and reflect and really delivers in-depth conversations, richer learning experiences and mutual understanding. That also helps enormously in subsequent projects.&#8221;\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-633 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-633 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1715858051863.jpeg\");}.e-loop-item-633 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-633 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1715858051863.jpeg\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-633 post-633 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Lie Chahboun<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSenior Consultant Circular Economy and Innovation, Co-ordinator Team Learning and Change Management \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRijkswaterstaat\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;With the narrative-based learning approach, Iris and Mike introduced us to a great application of organizational learning. The stories illustrate what those involved in a case face, how they can meet those challenges. We can learn from this to adapt our processes. We see opportunities for broader application of narrative learning within our organization.&#8221;\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-640 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-640 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1c24a6fb49f1b914b26fb532c18103e4d3e30603.png\");}.e-loop-item-640 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-640 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1c24a6fb49f1b914b26fb532c18103e4d3e30603.png\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-640 post-640 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Dirk Jan van Swaay<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tManaging Director Sustainable lnvestments\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tING\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;I am used to work with pattern recognition in my mind. What is power? That is when you recognize a pattern and you can predict how such a pattern will behave. Shakespeare and many other writers do a lot of pattern confirmation or pattern recognition. The moment you put those things next to each other &#8211; Shakespeare&#8217;s play and reality &#8211; then you can learn from each other. In my experience, that pattern recognition contains an enormous amount of sociology. It is about understanding human behaviour. The world is a series of patterns and if you can interpret those patterns, especially socially, then you can really manage that.\u201d\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-638 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-638 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f88ae0d4cf41edd4c5e920a4a2b422602664c65b.png\");}.e-loop-item-638 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-638 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f88ae0d4cf41edd4c5e920a4a2b422602664c65b.png\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-638 post-638 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Liane Philipsen<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEuropean Logistic Director\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tMainfreight Europe\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\u201cWhen you start talking, I always wonder where you are going. Then at some point it suddenly clicks. Your approach to Shakespeare and sustainability makes me think differently. It trains my brain because it is unconventional, and I like that. You invite me to take a step outside my own company, so that I can look at my company from a fresh perspective and encourage me to think of relevant connections and gain new inspiration.\u201d\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<style id=\"loop-dynamic-733\">.e-loop-item-636 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-636 .elementor-element.elementor-element-6b7a209 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/10572094f790f24bbcad91549034f2a923a23fe7.png\");}.e-loop-item-636 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827:not(.elementor-motion-effects-element-type-background), .e-loop-item-636 .elementor-element.elementor-element-5436827 > .elementor-motion-effects-container > .elementor-motion-effects-layer{background-image:url(\"https:\/\/learningstage.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/10572094f790f24bbcad91549034f2a923a23fe7.png\");}<\/style>\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop-item\" data-elementor-id=\"733\" class=\"elementor elementor-733 elementor-103 elementor-103 swiper-slide e-loop-item e-loop-item-636 post-636 testimonial type-testimonial status-publish hentry\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\" role=\"group\" aria-roledescription=\"slide\" data-custom-edit-handle=\"1\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d0bb02 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4d0bb02\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2277040 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2277040\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b7a209 e-con-full elementor-hidden-mobile e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6b7a209\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5436827 e-con-full elementor-hidden-desktop elementor-hidden-tablet e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5436827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4fd30cc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4fd30cc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89e1f7d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"89e1f7d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Daphne van Wassenaar<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8abf498 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8abf498\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tStory professional at\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6af72b9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6af72b9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tRijkswaterstaat\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8c6221 e-con-full quote-wrap e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b8c6221\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b304a2c js-quote elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b304a2c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t&#8220;In the narrative method you keep the questions more open, you give the interviewee more space to formulate and elaborate on &#8216;own answers&#8217;. The word &#8216;interview&#8217; should actually be replaced by &#8216;retrieving stories&#8217;. After all, it is about personal experiences: employees and other involved parties receive personal attention during such a narrative conversation. The total of retrieved stories provides a complete story. It provides a view of all actors in a large, complex force field. 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